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Post by Ragmaan on Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:45 pm

He who can create a valid argument for the topic and sentence that i generate shall receive a prize from me!

The first topic shall be : The over-enthusiasm of sports.
Millions of dollars go into sports that people should be playing as opposed to wasting time watching. Sure it's nice to see people do it, but its not healthy to idolize these people for doing a healthy activity that one should take upon themselves. Why should people be paid to play a recreational activity...

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Post by Friki Tiki[NU] on Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:58 pm

NASCAR is a waste of precious gas fuel!

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Post by Majeh[NU] on Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:18 pm

Why do people get paid more money to run about a field playing a game than people who risk their lives for the good of their country and to save/protect their citizens?

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Post by Robert_Russell on Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:36 am

cause no one watches that, no one destroys there TV when a sniper misses there shot... out side of video games.

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Post by Ragmaan on Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:07 am

an argument is not a one liner! an argument is developed and well thought out. that'd be a thesis maybe, but not a coherent argument!

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Post by Doctor Diabolical on Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:53 am

Okay, for years the animal instincts of man have desired entertainment, entertainment which it desires to get through a variety of methods. One of these methods has been tried and eaten up for years: entertainment achieved via the drive for physical superiority.

There is no doubt sports fullfill man's desire for power, after all sports have been a symbol of pride not only for man but by extent country as well. Since the Olympics, sports have been held to the standards of the gods, and to the Greeks those closest in strength to the gods should be held the highest among men. In a way this world has always doubted the spiritual one, and trying to achieve "enlightenment" through achieving power that can be grasped and proven instead of that simply left to the imagination is the easiest and most direct way for human beings to do so. This is why power has often been seized in the past through war, instead of negotiation, and why even emotional and spiritual conflicts between nations have been resolved by violence. To the ruling class who seized power through violence first, it simply rings true in a simplistic, tangible way that more reasonable, compromise oriented methods do not.

It only expands from this "might-makes-right" way of thinking that this ruling class would place a great emphasis on physical activity. This is why people from all walks of life under the dominance of these rulers place such emphasis on sports. To much of the public, physical competition, no matter how short lasting and superficial is seen as a synonym for true power; things like philosophy, spirituality and creativity are seen as too abstract, not fast-acting enough, and in many cases too hard to understand to catch the public's eye. On the other hand, war itself is in fact often too real, too painful to understand, and still not fast acting enough to keep the attention of a populace wanting gratification... Sports figures are seen as idols, avatars of might on a defined, fair field, the kind of power the populace would wish and dream to achieve, neither risking life in the unpredictability of war or the mental taxation of writing.

Despite being the status quo since ancient times, it's clear to any thinker that there could be a better way, simply not a way that people on the whole have the patience to attempt, especially in these times when negotiaton leaves nations open to devastating attack. With sports the status quo may be changed, though unlike on the grand scale there is less of a demand for it. After all, why stop paying sports stars so much when there is no concrete need for it? Although sports may not be as long or meaningful as deep thought, the public still prefers sports' episodic and ritualistic patterns to more complex means of entertainment. It would take a major change in sociology to change this status, and honestly, it would simply be better to live and let live than argue with perfectly happy human beings, trying to dissuade them from the activity so socially engraved into the public's consciousness.

In conclusion, despite stemming from and thriving on more superficial means, sports have become a widely accepted and loved part of the world. Those who love sports simply love them, without the sinister overtones of ancient campaigns to gain power. Though sports may not be the best means of entertainment, they have achieved their purposes before and to this day and thus should be accepted just as many sports enthusiasts have come to accept and even enjoy other means of entertainment.

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Post by Ragmaan on Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:07 am

nice doc. very nice.

as long as it wasn't taken from anywhere else anyway.

i'll have to think up an appropriate prize before posting up the next topic.and deliver said prize.

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Post by Robert_Russell on Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:09 pm

Ragmaan wrote:an argument is not a one liner! an argument is developed and well thought out. that'd be a thesis maybe, but not a coherent argument!
I am sorry, in the great flame war I am a fire extinguisher.

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Post by Friki Tiki[NU] on Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:12 pm

Doctor Diabolical wrote:Okay, for years the animal instincts of man have desired entertainment, entertainment which it desires to get through a variety of methods. One of these methods has been tried and eaten up for years: entertainment achieved via the drive for physical superiority.

There is no doubt sports fullfill man's desire for power, after all sports have been a symbol of pride not only for man but by extent country as well. Since the Olympics, sports have been held to the standards of the gods, and to the Greeks those closest in strength to the gods should be held the highest among men. In a way this world has always doubted the spiritual one, and trying to achieve "enlightenment" through achieving power that can be grasped and proven instead of that simply left to the imagination is the easiest and most direct way for human beings to do so. This is why power has often been seized in the past through war, instead of negotiation, and why even emotional and spiritual conflicts between nations have been resolved by violence. To the ruling class who seized power through violence first, it simply rings true in a simplistic, tangible way that more reasonable, compromise oriented methods do not.

It only expands from this "might-makes-right" way of thinking that this ruling class would place a great emphasis on physical activity. This is why people from all walks of life under the dominance of these rulers place such emphasis on sports. To much of the public, physical competition, no matter how short lasting and superficial is seen as a synonym for true power; things like philosophy, spirituality and creativity are seen as too abstract, not fast-acting enough, and in many cases too hard to understand to catch the public's eye. On the other hand, war itself is in fact often too real, too painful to understand, and still not fast acting enough to keep the attention of a populace wanting gratification... Sports figures are seen as idols, avatars of might on a defined, fair field, the kind of power the populace would wish and dream to achieve, neither risking life in the unpredictability of war or the mental taxation of writing.

Despite being the status quo since ancient times, it's clear to any thinker that there could be a better way, simply not a way that people on the whole have the patience to attempt, especially in these times when negotiaton leaves nations open to devastating attack. With sports the status quo may be changed, though unlike on the grand scale there is less of a demand for it. After all, why stop paying sports stars so much when there is no concrete need for it? Although sports may not be as long or meaningful as deep thought, the public still prefers sports' episodic and ritualistic patterns to more complex means of entertainment. It would take a major change in sociology to change this status, and honestly, it would simply be better to live and let live than argue with perfectly happy human beings, trying to dissuade them from the activity so socially engraved into the public's consciousness.

In conclusion, despite stemming from and thriving on more superficial means, sports have become a widely accepted and loved part of the world. Those who love sports simply love them, without the sinister overtones of ancient campaigns to gain power. Though sports may not be the best means of entertainment, they have achieved their purposes before and to this day and thus should be accepted just as many sports enthusiasts have come to accept and even enjoy other means of entertainment.

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Post by Majeh[NU] on Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:43 pm

Friki Tiki[NU] wrote:
Doctor Diabolical wrote:Okay, for years the animal instincts of man have desired entertainment, entertainment which it desires to get through a variety of methods. One of these methods has been tried and eaten up for years: entertainment achieved via the drive for physical superiority.

There is no doubt sports fullfill man's desire for power, after all sports have been a symbol of pride not only for man but by extent country as well. Since the Olympics, sports have been held to the standards of the gods, and to the Greeks those closest in strength to the gods should be held the highest among men. In a way this world has always doubted the spiritual one, and trying to achieve "enlightenment" through achieving power that can be grasped and proven instead of that simply left to the imagination is the easiest and most direct way for human beings to do so. This is why power has often been seized in the past through war, instead of negotiation, and why even emotional and spiritual conflicts between nations have been resolved by violence. To the ruling class who seized power through violence first, it simply rings true in a simplistic, tangible way that more reasonable, compromise oriented methods do not.

It only expands from this "might-makes-right" way of thinking that this ruling class would place a great emphasis on physical activity. This is why people from all walks of life under the dominance of these rulers place such emphasis on sports. To much of the public, physical competition, no matter how short lasting and superficial is seen as a synonym for true power; things like philosophy, spirituality and creativity are seen as too abstract, not fast-acting enough, and in many cases too hard to understand to catch the public's eye. On the other hand, war itself is in fact often too real, too painful to understand, and still not fast acting enough to keep the attention of a populace wanting gratification... Sports figures are seen as idols, avatars of might on a defined, fair field, the kind of power the populace would wish and dream to achieve, neither risking life in the unpredictability of war or the mental taxation of writing.

Despite being the status quo since ancient times, it's clear to any thinker that there could be a better way, simply not a way that people on the whole have the patience to attempt, especially in these times when negotiaton leaves nations open to devastating attack. With sports the status quo may be changed, though unlike on the grand scale there is less of a demand for it. After all, why stop paying sports stars so much when there is no concrete need for it? Although sports may not be as long or meaningful as deep thought, the public still prefers sports' episodic and ritualistic patterns to more complex means of entertainment. It would take a major change in sociology to change this status, and honestly, it would simply be better to live and let live than argue with perfectly happy human beings, trying to dissuade them from the activity so socially engraved into the public's consciousness.

In conclusion, despite stemming from and thriving on more superficial means, sports have become a widely accepted and loved part of the world. Those who love sports simply love them, without the sinister overtones of ancient campaigns to gain power. Though sports may not be the best means of entertainment, they have achieved their purposes before and to this day and thus should be accepted just as many sports enthusiasts have come to accept and even enjoy other means of entertainment.

Your mother.
-I win.

Your mother's face.
-No Tiki, I win! XD

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Post by Friki Tiki[NU] on Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:50 am

Majeh[NU] wrote:
Friki Tiki[NU] wrote:
Doctor Diabolical wrote:Okay, for years the animal instincts of man have desired entertainment, entertainment which it desires to get through a variety of methods. One of these methods has been tried and eaten up for years: entertainment achieved via the drive for physical superiority.

There is no doubt sports fullfill man's desire for power, after all sports have been a symbol of pride not only for man but by extent country as well. Since the Olympics, sports have been held to the standards of the gods, and to the Greeks those closest in strength to the gods should be held the highest among men. In a way this world has always doubted the spiritual one, and trying to achieve "enlightenment" through achieving power that can be grasped and proven instead of that simply left to the imagination is the easiest and most direct way for human beings to do so. This is why power has often been seized in the past through war, instead of negotiation, and why even emotional and spiritual conflicts between nations have been resolved by violence. To the ruling class who seized power through violence first, it simply rings true in a simplistic, tangible way that more reasonable, compromise oriented methods do not.

It only expands from this "might-makes-right" way of thinking that this ruling class would place a great emphasis on physical activity. This is why people from all walks of life under the dominance of these rulers place such emphasis on sports. To much of the public, physical competition, no matter how short lasting and superficial is seen as a synonym for true power; things like philosophy, spirituality and creativity are seen as too abstract, not fast-acting enough, and in many cases too hard to understand to catch the public's eye. On the other hand, war itself is in fact often too real, too painful to understand, and still not fast acting enough to keep the attention of a populace wanting gratification... Sports figures are seen as idols, avatars of might on a defined, fair field, the kind of power the populace would wish and dream to achieve, neither risking life in the unpredictability of war or the mental taxation of writing.

Despite being the status quo since ancient times, it's clear to any thinker that there could be a better way, simply not a way that people on the whole have the patience to attempt, especially in these times when negotiaton leaves nations open to devastating attack. With sports the status quo may be changed, though unlike on the grand scale there is less of a demand for it. After all, why stop paying sports stars so much when there is no concrete need for it? Although sports may not be as long or meaningful as deep thought, the public still prefers sports' episodic and ritualistic patterns to more complex means of entertainment. It would take a major change in sociology to change this status, and honestly, it would simply be better to live and let live than argue with perfectly happy human beings, trying to dissuade them from the activity so socially engraved into the public's consciousness.

In conclusion, despite stemming from and thriving on more superficial means, sports have become a widely accepted and loved part of the world. Those who love sports simply love them, without the sinister overtones of ancient campaigns to gain power. Though sports may not be the best means of entertainment, they have achieved their purposes before and to this day and thus should be accepted just as many sports enthusiasts have come to accept and even enjoy other means of entertainment.

Your mother.
-I win.

Your mother's face.
-No Tiki, I win! XD

MY MOTHER WAS A SAINT YOU SON OF A &$%^&!
-You automatically lose because of your dirty tactics.

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Post by Robert_Russell on Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:04 am

you are all noobs.

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Post by Ragmaan on Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:46 am

no jus you :O

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Post by Majeh[NU] on Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:37 am

Friki Tiki[NU] wrote:
Majeh[NU] wrote:
Friki Tiki[NU] wrote:
Doctor Diabolical wrote:Okay, for years the animal instincts of man have desired entertainment, entertainment which it desires to get through a variety of methods. One of these methods has been tried and eaten up for years: entertainment achieved via the drive for physical superiority.

There is no doubt sports fullfill man's desire for power, after all sports have been a symbol of pride not only for man but by extent country as well. Since the Olympics, sports have been held to the standards of the gods, and to the Greeks those closest in strength to the gods should be held the highest among men. In a way this world has always doubted the spiritual one, and trying to achieve "enlightenment" through achieving power that can be grasped and proven instead of that simply left to the imagination is the easiest and most direct way for human beings to do so. This is why power has often been seized in the past through war, instead of negotiation, and why even emotional and spiritual conflicts between nations have been resolved by violence. To the ruling class who seized power through violence first, it simply rings true in a simplistic, tangible way that more reasonable, compromise oriented methods do not.

It only expands from this "might-makes-right" way of thinking that this ruling class would place a great emphasis on physical activity. This is why people from all walks of life under the dominance of these rulers place such emphasis on sports. To much of the public, physical competition, no matter how short lasting and superficial is seen as a synonym for true power; things like philosophy, spirituality and creativity are seen as too abstract, not fast-acting enough, and in many cases too hard to understand to catch the public's eye. On the other hand, war itself is in fact often too real, too painful to understand, and still not fast acting enough to keep the attention of a populace wanting gratification... Sports figures are seen as idols, avatars of might on a defined, fair field, the kind of power the populace would wish and dream to achieve, neither risking life in the unpredictability of war or the mental taxation of writing.

Despite being the status quo since ancient times, it's clear to any thinker that there could be a better way, simply not a way that people on the whole have the patience to attempt, especially in these times when negotiaton leaves nations open to devastating attack. With sports the status quo may be changed, though unlike on the grand scale there is less of a demand for it. After all, why stop paying sports stars so much when there is no concrete need for it? Although sports may not be as long or meaningful as deep thought, the public still prefers sports' episodic and ritualistic patterns to more complex means of entertainment. It would take a major change in sociology to change this status, and honestly, it would simply be better to live and let live than argue with perfectly happy human beings, trying to dissuade them from the activity so socially engraved into the public's consciousness.

In conclusion, despite stemming from and thriving on more superficial means, sports have become a widely accepted and loved part of the world. Those who love sports simply love them, without the sinister overtones of ancient campaigns to gain power. Though sports may not be the best means of entertainment, they have achieved their purposes before and to this day and thus should be accepted just as many sports enthusiasts have come to accept and even enjoy other means of entertainment.

Your mother.
-I win.

Your mother's face.
-No Tiki, I win! XD

MY MOTHER WAS A SAINT YOU SON OF A &$%^&!
-You automatically lose because of your dirty tactics.

Aww Tiki, you are meant to say "Your mother's face's mother!" xD
It just keeps going after there, I think you can see the pattern.

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Post by Robert_Russell on Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:04 pm

Ragmaan wrote:no jus you :O
Stop talking to yourself, it is creepy.

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Post by Ragmaan on Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:39 pm

one sided conservations are stupid robert!

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Post by Ragmaan on Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:48 am

bumpity bump bump.

Marvel comics are better than dc comics.
Dc has many world shattering characters that break the limits of reality. To say the least, superman. And on the other spectrum, batman, who is just as powerful though. As opposed to marvel, where those with power are still mortal. Even the most powerful telepaths can be blocked by those protected. This system has balance as opposed to the other.

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Post by Doctor Diabolical on Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:27 am

Before I post my next argument, I would like to say Ragmaan gave me a wicked-awesome prize: drew a picture of 2 of my favorite horror-icons! Very Happy

So for your own pictures (OR for other prizes he also does writing, and a good bit of other stuff), get debating today!

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